Curse

fadekill · Jan 31, 2015, 12:33 AM // 00:33

I think the ones who offended deserve a perma ban. There is no "but I did it for the first time". Just no, don't do it, ever.

For those that got banned and are innocent: Anet fail-streak still prevails. Seems like almost all things they do to GW are there to harm. Even those that should be good (banning hackers, working against syncers) have more bad side effects than good ones. It's pathetic and makes me sad and angry at the same time.

Title Points R Us · Jan 31, 2015, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by fadekill

I think the ones who offended deserve a perma ban. There is no "but I did it for the first time". Just no, don't do it, ever.

For those that got banned and are innocent: Anet fail-streak still prevails. Seems like almost all things they do to GW are there to harm. Even those that should be good (banning hackers, working against syncers) have more bad side effects than good ones. It's pathetic and makes me sad and angry at the same time.

Fair enough but in the past this would have just been a timed ban. Just sayin.

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 31, 2015, 01:54 AM // 01:54

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Originally Posted by Title Points R Us

Fair enough but in the past this would have just been a timed ban. Just sayin.

How far in the past? Back in 2010 it was permanent.

Keyez · Jan 31, 2015, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Any of you who have suffered legitimate grievances due to the banwave contacted the Better Business Bureau? There was a rumour going around years ago that if the BBB asked them to jump off a cliff, anet would

vineseed · Jan 31, 2015, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Keyez

Any of you who have suffered legitimate grievances due to the banwave contacted the Better Business Bureau? There was a rumour going around years ago that if the BBB asked them to jump off a cliff, anet would

yeah if only arenanet was accredited by bbb

urania · Jan 31, 2015, 12:47 PM // 12:47

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Originally Posted by Motoko

Honestly any type of lawsuit isn't a terrible idea. You may think it is a "troll attempt" or a "joke" but look at the logic of the move:

ArenaNet clearly has no interest in putting resources in to GW1. That is clearly shown by the lack of support responses the community has seen.

Filing a lawsuit would cost ArenaNet money to handle. This is a guess, but I would think that it would be money they have zero interest on wasting on GW1. It seems like it would be easier and cheaper just to undo the ban work than actually deal with a lawsuit. (I personally don't know how the lawsuits would work - if you would have to file in Washington state or your residence state)

And as far as those spending the money, time, and effort on the lawsuit? Why fault them? They obviously are passionate about this game and the time/efforts they have spent before this point.

The type of people that will go great lengths to get the job done, no matter the cost, no matter how great a challenge - Those are the people I like. The ones mocking and quitting and emo-ing it up? Those types are easily forgotten.

Go get help.

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Originally Posted by phat34

Instead of spending time worrying about who I am Dumb(u know the rest) do the real work....

http://www.gdcvault.com/play/1020708...s-Manage-Fraud

Mr. FAT ARSE AKA shazbawt is introduced at 11:20

The funny people on this thread are the Arse Kissing ANET Groupies... I am on the BANNED Side... People that have played this game for 5 - 8 years are getting perma banned... where 30 - 90 day ban would have been the appropriate punishment! Don't u think...

Got what you deserved, now go punch a pillow, you excuse of a player.

whoru · Jan 31, 2015, 12:54 PM // 12:54

If you didnt wanna get permad maybe you shouldnt have done illegal things but thats none of my business

MaxBorken · Jan 31, 2015, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by Enchanted Krystal

I use multilaunch for the storage of my Magmas collection & can say that the bans are not for multilaunch alone. It might be a combination of multilaunch & pvp'ing perhaps?

Hope this info helps.

EDIT: FYI i'm not banned

Some of the most awesome items in GW history belonging to collectors are securely sequestered away on storage accounts to thwart the hackers. (High profile names are targets). The use of multi-launch to pass these items to mules is normal practise. To lose these accounts for this would be a travesty.

Max

Hubetos · Jan 31, 2015, 04:59 PM // 16:59

ITT:
1. Botters, hackers and syncers get banned.
2. Botters, hackers and syncers claim they didn't bot, hack and syncm, and ban was unjust.
3. Botters, hackers and syncers finally admit they did bot, hack or sync, or other users prove they did.
4. Botters, hackers and syncers cry about how unfair it is that their user license was terminated, after breaking the END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT (EULA).
5. Botters, hackers and syncers start flinging verbal diarrhea in all directions, hoping to achieve some sort of solace in this cheater massacre.
6. Botters, hackers and syncers decide to play the victim card again, claiming they will sue ANet for enforcing the rules they set and said players agreed to.
7. Botters, hackers and syncers either chicken out or lose court case and are forced to pay ANets legal fees???

Get out the popcorn boys and girls, this just gets better and better.

phat34 · Jan 31, 2015, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Some either work for ANET, and thus defend them to the hilt.

Some Still Kiss Arse to people that work in the security department!

Some are such big GW2 Groupies and still post in GW1 Threads!

No matter how u look at it - its less players - playing in an already too dead and old engineered game... and if you don't understand that your too stupid to even post in my opinion. U might as well go to your your local mall and patronize a security Guard. When the drop of players and sales show on the 2015 gw1 report they will be looking for new jobs or departments to work at... Cause money is the bottom line and they already forgot about GW1 players... try writing a support ticket... lmao. Most of the people that got banned feel like it was a favor - and it will help us explore the wide new world of better games out there and skip over GW2 cause the owners CAN NOT BE TRUSTED! Mark my word. The programers from GW1 are long gone... but BET they can't program a trade option... Oh that would take too much REAL security and Real Coders to write... I almost forgot. Its not easy like adding content. The botting community was huge and some of there biggest dollar players hence some over 10 accounts... buying extra storage panes and the whole shabang. Good luck getting matches in PVP with the ridiculously low limits they set and lack of players... at least when the bots were their u could get consistent matches and run from bots till u learned how to defeat them, (Hint: most of them never chased too well...)

Surge goes pre · Jan 31, 2015, 07:25 PM // 19:25

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Originally Posted by phat34

Most of the people that got banned feel like it was a favor - and it will help us explore the wide new world of better games out there and skip over GW2 cause the owners CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!

you just keep telling yourself that, kid. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

I got a better idea, how about you get outside for the first time in 4 years and go smell the roses. Maybe get a little vitamin D. It might do you some good.

*Darcy* · Jan 31, 2015, 08:03 PM // 20:03

I would just like to point out that these same conversations took place every time ArenaNet banned people - lawsuit, BBB, screaming on other forums, etc. Nothing came of any of it. It's nice that you have guru as a place to let off steam, but all that will happen in the end is nothing. Some accounts will get restored, but most won't.

I'm sorry for anyone who was banned in error, but none of this is new. The EULA covers ArenaNet very well in the case of blocked accounts. It has always been up to the player to prove a mistake was made.

I should also point out that Multi-Launch and/or Texmod on their own will not cause a ban. They have been used since their inception without any problems. The problems occur when you use such a mod to bend the rules.

Lastly, do NOT spread the ban complaints into other guru forums. If you post in another thread, keep to the OP topic.

Sardaukar · Jan 31, 2015, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Well throw me on the pile of banned accounts.

Here's my story. Judge for yourselves whether the ban was appropriate.

I have many accounts. I used to use 2 computers to trade or even run mules to outposts or do quests.

Then, after discovering GWx2, I decided to run 4 accounts. Again, to trade, run mules to different areas (LA to SJM) or to do quests.

This is all I've done for the past 5 years. Right now I can't participate in CNY. If I could I'd be running 4 accounts through each quest.

What's strange as well is that only some of my accounts are banned, while others are not.

Anet's lack of transparency has been frustrating over the years. So it came as a shock that while I was playing on Thursday, I came to find my main account as well as others banned on Friday.

Especially in light of what Anet's stand on GWx2 has been.

From http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_...counts_at_Once

"Here is the general answer: We do not support the use of third-party programs for Guild Wars. This includes programs that allow a player to simultaneously play multiple Guild Wars accounts on a single computer. However, we do not take action against those who do so as long as they do not engage in cheats, exploits, or other breaches of the User Agreement or Rules of Conduct. Keep in mind that the use of third-party programs is strongly discouraged and we cannot offer support if you develop problems as a result of their use. -- Gaile 21:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)"

So is there anything ban-worthy that you can see in my activity?

Thanks!

BadOwnZu · Jan 31, 2015, 09:05 PM // 21:05

It's ban worthy because Shazbawt has deemed it ban worthy. Whether if he's right or wrong, It's ban worthy in his eyes

Title Points R Us · Jan 31, 2015, 09:07 PM // 21:07

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Originally Posted by BadOwnZu

It's ban worthy because Shazbawt has deemed it ban worthy. Whether if he's right or wrong, It's ban worthy in his eyes

sad but true

**cosyfiep** · Jan 31, 2015, 10:20 PM // 22:20

sorry to hear about that...our bench is getting full. (and I have had little sleep since my ban--sorry I really DO care a lot about the game that I have put a LOT of time and MONEY into--if they had just shut it down that would have been fine, sad but fine). And yeah, which accounts they left and which ones they closed--it feels more like rolling the dice than guilty/innocent.

Nekodesu · Jan 31, 2015, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by phat34

Lawsuits are definitely being filed. A few of my friends are putting together a nice class action suit which you all will hear about shortly. This isn't the way to run a business in America, not sure how other governments will react. Banning over 1000 members without even so much as a press release is the height of stupidity IMHO. If someone breaks a rule, proof needs to be presented and a formal e-mail. Chargebacks should also be coming their way.

Oh my god, this is hilarious! When you play the game, you agree to their terms and conditions. If they for example wanted to do so you had to pay a fee monthly, you have to or you can't use their service any more(their game). Literally they own the game, and can do what they want. You paid to play their game, but that means regardless you can be banned at any time for any reason, you agreed to that when you created your account. I love how you say "in America", haha.

"we do not take action against those who do so as long as they do not engage in cheats, exploits, or other breaches of the User Agreement or Rules of Conduct. "
And here you go people, proof that you can not be banned by using GWMultiLaunch and that you probably did something you aren't aware of. "Support" is not the same as "bannable offence".

phat34 · Jan 31, 2015, 11:51 PM // 23:51

GWMultiLauch is a 3rd party program bud... and yes u can get banned for using it... I know a few friends that didn't BOT but got banned for using it as a matter of fact... It can be used to gain an unfair advantage - if u know how that is... and in America you can sue for what ever you like... their EULA is open to interpretation and if you bring suit they need to defend it.. how they interpret it and what the jury decides are too different things!
Defending it cost money and resources! Class Action! Look it up! If you feel like your certain inalienable rights have been violated you have civil court! Google Much?

Surge goes pre · Feb 01, 2015, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by phat34

GWMultiLauch is a 3rd party program bud... and yes u can get banned for using it... I know a few friends that didn't BOT but got banned for using it as a matter of fact... It can be used to gain an unfair advantage - if u know how that is... and in America you can sue for what ever you like... their EULA is open to interpretation and if you bring suit they need to defend it.. how they interpret it and what the jury decides are too different things!
Defending it cost money and resources! Class Action! Look it up! If you feel like your certain inalienable rights have been violated you have civil court! Google Much?

Your posts just get better and better.

You feel like guild wars has taken away your inalienable rights from the Constitution? Your inalienable rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Guild wars hasn't taken away your right to life seeing as you are still alive. It hasn't taken away your right to liberty seeing as you are a free person. And it hasn't taken away your right to the pursuit of happiness either, but perhaps your complaining mindset has. You really gotta get out more dude. You realize this is a video game. There is a whole other world outside, with people...

Bristlebane · Feb 01, 2015, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

sorry to hear about that...our bench is getting full. (and I have had little sleep since my ban--sorry I really DO care a lot about the game that I have put a LOT of time and MONEY into--if they had just shut it down that would have been fine, sad but fine). And yeah, which accounts they left and which ones they closed--it feels more like rolling the dice than guilty/innocent.

Sorry to hear they got to your accounts as well. It might just be a matter of time until they ban rest of the accounts, sadly.

Just wish there was a Third Party GW1 server/client developed by now, I would fire up my own server then for close friends. Including you.